Nelson Sauvin Ale

[brianman]

Hi Everyone,

Trying to put a AG recipe together based around Nelson Sauvin hops, haven't tasted them in a beer yet. Does this look ok.

2.5kg Pale Ale Grain
1.5kg Pilsener Grain
0.35 Wheat, Torrified Grain
8.0gm Nelson Sauvin 60 min.
17gm Nelson Sauvin 20 min.
15gm Nelson Sauvin 5 min.
Safale us-05 yeast 16-17deg.

Have only brewed a handful of all grain, so trying to keep things a bit simple at this stage, hence no salt, gypsum etc. additions.
Anyone with NS. experience, is that too much flavor/aroma, not after too much bitterness, just an easy drinker summer type ale. As you can see it's loosely based on Ross's version.
Cheers
Briby

 

[peas_and_corn]

I'd recommend you to not bother with the extra grains, just go all pale malt or marris otter. It lets the hops really shine through

 

[Kai]

Disagree with that; pils malt and wheat will definitely be of benefit with a NS ale and let the hops shine through.

What's the alpha on the sauvins? I assume it's highish, looks like a good recipe to me but definitely tilted to hop flavour / aroma.

 

[brianman]

Disagree with that; pils malt and wheat will definitely be of benefit with a NS ale and let the hops shine through.

What's the alpha on the sauvins? I assume it's highish, looks like a good recipe to me but definitely tilted to hop flavour / aroma.

Sauvins around 12.5, looks like i'm on the right track, don't want it too strong.
Cheers
Briby

 

[benno1973]

I'd recommend you to not bother with the extra grains, just go all pale malt or marris otter. It lets the hops really shine through

Yeh, I'd keep the wheat and pils. GIves the beer a nice grainy texture which offsets the syrupy sweetness of the NS nicely. Good amounts of NS for flavour and aroma, although maybe move the 20min addition to 15 or 10 mins to really capture that flavour? Just my 2c...

 

[pixelboy]

Id double the 20 & 0 min additions..

NS is awesome.. get as much in as you can!

 

[Frank]

Here is Ross's recipe, and here is one of mine.
Ross's gets good reviews, but I have not made it. Mine tasted great, great hop to play with.
I hope either of these are of help.

 

[Nick JD]

It's gonna taste like peaches.

 

[brianman]

It's gonna taste like peaches.

Thanks everyone,
Changed hop schedule to 15gm @ 60, 24gm @ 15min,20gm dry hop in primary.
See how it goes & add or lower, to suit my tastes, if necessary next time.

Cheers
Briby

 

[ausdb]

Thanks everyone,
Changed hop schedule to 15gm @ 60, 24gm @ 15min,20gm dry hop in primary.
See how it goes & add or lower, to suit my tastes, if necessary next time.

Cheers
Briby

Just throwing my $0.02 in, as Kai says a bit of wheat malt goes well.

Sauvins are a very distinctive hop. I have been brewing the recipe below for a while and it was based on a kolschy/blonde ale that used to be on tap at Colonial Brewing in Margaret River when Dig was the man with the paddle in his hand. I entered it into the 2009 WA state comp as a Blonde Ale and it took out 1st place. It was marked down for too much hop aroma and character and the Sauvin's are the one that come through more than Motueka/Bsaaz. I have blended it with a munich helles 30% and you can still pickup the Sauvin character.

NS Blonde/Summer ale thingy
A ProMash Brewing Session - Recipe Details Report
BJCP Style and Style Guidelines
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06-B Light Hybrid Beer, Blonde Ale
Min OG: 1.038 Max OG: 1.054
Min IBU: 15 Max IBU: 28
Min Clr: 4 Max Clr: 10 Color in EBC

Recipe Specifics
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Batch Size (L): 42.00 Wort Size (L): 36.00
Total Grain (kg): 9.23
Anticipated OG: 1.048 Plato: 12.02
Anticipated EBC: 8.7
Anticipated IBU: 17.8
Brewhouse Efficiency: 75 %
Wort Boil Time: 60 Minutes

Grain/Extract/Sugar
% Amount Name Origin Potential EBC
-----------------------------------------------------------------------------
77.9 7.19 kg. Pilsener Australia 1.035 4
10.8 1.00 kg. Weyermann Munich I Germany 1.038 15
5.4 0.50 kg. Weyermann Carapils (Carafoam) Germany 1.037 3
4.9 0.45 kg. Weyermann Pale Wheat Germany 1.038 4
1.0 0.09 kg. Weyermann Acidulated Germany 1.000 5

Hops
Amount Name Form Alpha IBU Boil Time
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14.70 g. B Saaz Pellet 6.50 7.2 60 min.
14.70 g. B Saaz Pellet 6.50 3.7 30 min.
14.70 g. B Saaz Pellet 6.50 1.9 15 min.
26.60 g. B Saaz Pellet 6.50 2.2 off boil
20.00 g. Nelson Sauvin NZ Whole 11.90 2.7 off boil

Yeast
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Split ferment
50% California Ale
50% German ale

 

[tallie]

Here is Ross's recipe, and here is one of mine.
Ross's gets good reviews, but I have not made it. Mine tasted great, great hop to play with.
I hope either of these are of help.

+1 for Ross' NS Summer Ale. It really brings out the flavour and aromatics.

It's gonna taste like peaches.

I get more of a passion fruit taste from the aforementioned recipe.

Cheers,
Kris.

 

[Nick JD]

I get more of a passion fruit taste from the aforementioned recipe.

Cheers,
Kris.

Might be all that B Saaz.

 

[tallie]

Might be all that B Saaz.

Nope, I was referring to Ross' recipe, which is all NS.

I haven't brewed with B Saaz yet, but I'm looking forward to comparing the two when I do. Maybe it'll taste more like peaches to me then :chug:

Cheers,
Kris.